That is an excellent post you made punkofnice. However, I think there is a little non-biblical evidence (such as in a writing by Tacitus and a writing by Josephus) that Jesus existed (and that he claimed to be the King Messiah and that because of that the Romans executed him), but that evidence is debatable (though nearly all modern historians of the subject of the first century CE accept it). I think Jesus (as a non-supernatural being existed), but even if Jesus existed there is definitely no proof that Jesus performed miracles. He might have healed some illnesses by naturalistic means, but there is no non-biblical proof he healed anyone by supernatural means.
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Jesus as 'The mighty + almighty God'
by JW Answers injehovah's witnesses refuse to believe that jesus is the almighty god.
they would state that jesus is 'mighty', but not almighty.. below is a 30 minute video proving from the word of god that the lord jesus christ is both mighty and almighty, separate from the father but equal too.. the verses used from scripture show without a doubt that christ is mighty (isaiah 9:6) and almighty (rev 1:7-8)..
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Early Hominem. Neanderthals. Evolution.
by solameguy12 inso i grew up as a witness but i’m no longer active, i have some family that still practices very seriously.
but i don’t want to ask them my question.
but what does the bible and teaching’s of jw’s say about early hominids?
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Thank you peacefulpete for your latest post, the one in which you commented about the video of the fossil skeleton named Lucy. More than once Sea Breeze has made a post in which he linked to the video in which a non-evolutionary creationist criticizes a portion of a paleontology video which aired on the science program named "NOVA". I addressed the matter in a different topic thread many months ago, but I didn't want to the make the effort to do so again. I am very glad you addressed the matter in this topic thread.
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Early Hominem. Neanderthals. Evolution.
by solameguy12 inso i grew up as a witness but i’m no longer active, i have some family that still practices very seriously.
but i don’t want to ask them my question.
but what does the bible and teaching’s of jw’s say about early hominids?
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A fish didn't become a bird all in one step (or in one generation). A fish didn't even become a reptile or an amphibian all in one step. Instead over numerous generations of offspring a group of fish came to have distant descendants which were amphibians, and some of those amphibians came to have some distant descendants which were reptiles [and other distant descendants of the amphibians were ones which had mammal-like features]. Some of those reptiles came to have distant descendants which were dinosaurs. Some of the dinosaurs came to have distant descendants which walked only on the hind limbs (and thus were two legged, and had two arms instead of two front legs) and thus were bipeds. Some of those two legged biped dinosaurs came to have distant descendants which had feathered dinosaurs (including feathers on the arms). Some of those feathered two legged biped dinosaurs came to have distant descendants which had feathered arms that were almost like wings. Some of the latter type of feathered dinosaurs came to have distant descendants which were birds. Scientists now consider modern birds to be avian dinosaurs, in other words, they now consider modern birds to be a type of dinosaur - the only type of dinosaur still in existence. Fossils of each of those categories have been found.
Fossils were found of lobe finned fish. That kind of fish is not as well adapted for swimming, (unlike the majority of kinds of fish), but it is better adapted for moving between underwater plants and moving in the muck on the bottom of oceans. Later lobe finned fish had more bones in their paired fins, making their paired fins more like paddles with the beginnings of toes at the ends of the paddles. Some of their distant descendants were fish with legs. Fossils have been found for each of those kinds of fish. Some of the distant descendants of the latter fish were the first amphibians. The other kinds of fish continue to exist because they are better adapted for swimming in most sections of oceans and lakes, but the kinds with descended from the early lobe finned fish were much better adapted (than the others) to living on land. The reptiles, birds, and mammals (but mammals did not descend from birds, but rather from Synapsids) are distant descendants of the early fish which had legs. See https://evolution.berkeley.edu/what-are-evograms/the-origin-of-tetrapods/ for a good illustration of this. If you are willing to read much longer articles then see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_tetrapods and https://evolution-outreach.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1007/s12052-009-0119-2 .
It was asked why are still fish if birds evolved from fish. The answer is because fish are better adapted to water than birds, though some birds do spend some their time swimming under water. Certain types animals live in certain environments and certain other types of animals live in other environments.
Humans evolved from ancient species of apes (not modern day species of apes). Regarding why do apes still exist today if humans evolved from apes, it is because existing apes are well suited for their jungle environment, which includes spending time climbing trees and being on tree limbs (in some cases even sleeping on tree limbs). Some ape species are also well adapted for swinging from branches, unlike humans. The orangutans and gibbons swing from branches and have long arms which are well suited for that.TD, you provided a great line up of skulls but I don't think the depicted photos of the skulls are to the same scale. The oldest skulls are much smaller than modern human skulls, but the photos make it look like they all have the same height from the bottom of the chip to the top of the cranium. If the photos were depicted to the same scale, the oldest skulls would be noticeably much smaller than modern human skulls.
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Science News article: ‘Case closed’: 99.9% of scientists agree climate emergency caused by humans
by Disillusioned JW ina news article has the headline of " ‘case closed’: 99.9% of scientists agree climate emergency caused by humans"; see https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/19/case-closed-999-of-scientists-agree-climate-emergency-caused-by-humans .
the article says in part the following.. 'the scientific consensus that humans are altering the climate has passed 99.9%, according to research that strengthens the case for global action at the cop26 summit in glasgow.. the degree of scientific certainty about the impact of greenhouse gases is now similar to the level of agreement on evolution and plate tectonics, the authors say, based on a survey of nearly 90,000 climate-related studies.
this means there is practically no doubt among experts that burning fossil fuels, such as oil, gas, coal, peat and trees, is heating the planet and causing more extreme weather.. a previous survey in 2013 showed 97% of studies published between 1991 and 2012 supported the idea that human activities are altering earth’s climate.. this has been updated and expanded by the study by cornell university that shows the tiny minority of sceptical voices has diminished to almost nothing as evidence mounts of the link between fossil-fuel burning and climate disruption.. the latest survey of peer-reviewed literature published from 2012 to november 2020 was conducted in two stages.
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Vidqun, in order for me to start to become convinced that Bill Gates is trying to make people sterile or is trying to kill people, I would need to read such stated by mainstream traditional news agencies which I have been trusting for decades. Those agencies include the following: Associated Press (AP), Reuters, CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, PBS, The Guardian, The New York Times, UPI, and similar news agencies. If the claims your sources say about Bill Gates being evil were true then the trusted (trusted by me at least) news sources mentioned above would reported it as true and most likely Bill Gates would have been arrested by law enforcement by now.
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Science News article: ‘Case closed’: 99.9% of scientists agree climate emergency caused by humans
by Disillusioned JW ina news article has the headline of " ‘case closed’: 99.9% of scientists agree climate emergency caused by humans"; see https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/19/case-closed-999-of-scientists-agree-climate-emergency-caused-by-humans .
the article says in part the following.. 'the scientific consensus that humans are altering the climate has passed 99.9%, according to research that strengthens the case for global action at the cop26 summit in glasgow.. the degree of scientific certainty about the impact of greenhouse gases is now similar to the level of agreement on evolution and plate tectonics, the authors say, based on a survey of nearly 90,000 climate-related studies.
this means there is practically no doubt among experts that burning fossil fuels, such as oil, gas, coal, peat and trees, is heating the planet and causing more extreme weather.. a previous survey in 2013 showed 97% of studies published between 1991 and 2012 supported the idea that human activities are altering earth’s climate.. this has been updated and expanded by the study by cornell university that shows the tiny minority of sceptical voices has diminished to almost nothing as evidence mounts of the link between fossil-fuel burning and climate disruption.. the latest survey of peer-reviewed literature published from 2012 to november 2020 was conducted in two stages.
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The photo of solar panels over rolling hills looks extremely fake to me. That is largely because solar panels need to be on mounting racks and electrical cables need to be hooked up to them.
https://totalenergies.com/media/news/press-releases/totalenergies-launches-its-largest-solar-power-plant-france is what I think is an accurate source. It mentions a different solar power installation in France. For information sources about other solar electric power installation projects in France see the following.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_in_France
- https://www.pv-magazine.com/2021/09/17/frances-second-largest-pv-plant-comes-online/
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Science News article: ‘Case closed’: 99.9% of scientists agree climate emergency caused by humans
by Disillusioned JW ina news article has the headline of " ‘case closed’: 99.9% of scientists agree climate emergency caused by humans"; see https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/19/case-closed-999-of-scientists-agree-climate-emergency-caused-by-humans .
the article says in part the following.. 'the scientific consensus that humans are altering the climate has passed 99.9%, according to research that strengthens the case for global action at the cop26 summit in glasgow.. the degree of scientific certainty about the impact of greenhouse gases is now similar to the level of agreement on evolution and plate tectonics, the authors say, based on a survey of nearly 90,000 climate-related studies.
this means there is practically no doubt among experts that burning fossil fuels, such as oil, gas, coal, peat and trees, is heating the planet and causing more extreme weather.. a previous survey in 2013 showed 97% of studies published between 1991 and 2012 supported the idea that human activities are altering earth’s climate.. this has been updated and expanded by the study by cornell university that shows the tiny minority of sceptical voices has diminished to almost nothing as evidence mounts of the link between fossil-fuel burning and climate disruption.. the latest survey of peer-reviewed literature published from 2012 to november 2020 was conducted in two stages.
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The following web pages have very important articles to read to learn the facts about certain social media claims.
- https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-gates-list/fact-check-list-of-claims-about-bill-gates-includes-falsities-idUSL1N2LO230 (The article is called "Fact Check-List of claims about Bill Gates includes falsities".)
- https://factcheck.afp.com/who-did-not-say-bill-gates-adds-sterilisation-formula-vaccines (The article is called "WHO did not say Bill Gates adds sterilisation formula to vaccines".)
- https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/no-bill-gates-is-not-funding-covid-19-vaccines-as-a-way-to-conduct-global-surveillance-or-to-depopulate-the-world/ (The article is called "No, Bill Gates is not funding COVID-19 vaccines as a way to conduct global surveillance or to depopulate the world".)
- https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-critical-thinking-pseudoscience/infertility-diabolical-agenda-anti-vaxx-sleight-hand-propaganda (The article is called "Infertility: A Diabolical Agenda Is Anti-Vaxx Sleight-of-Hand Propaganda:Disgraced anti-vaxxer Andrew Wakefield directs a movie based on the false claim that Kenyan women are being sterilized under the cover of tetanus vaccination. His real goal has nothing to do with Africa".)
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Science News article: ‘Case closed’: 99.9% of scientists agree climate emergency caused by humans
by Disillusioned JW ina news article has the headline of " ‘case closed’: 99.9% of scientists agree climate emergency caused by humans"; see https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/19/case-closed-999-of-scientists-agree-climate-emergency-caused-by-humans .
the article says in part the following.. 'the scientific consensus that humans are altering the climate has passed 99.9%, according to research that strengthens the case for global action at the cop26 summit in glasgow.. the degree of scientific certainty about the impact of greenhouse gases is now similar to the level of agreement on evolution and plate tectonics, the authors say, based on a survey of nearly 90,000 climate-related studies.
this means there is practically no doubt among experts that burning fossil fuels, such as oil, gas, coal, peat and trees, is heating the planet and causing more extreme weather.. a previous survey in 2013 showed 97% of studies published between 1991 and 2012 supported the idea that human activities are altering earth’s climate.. this has been updated and expanded by the study by cornell university that shows the tiny minority of sceptical voices has diminished to almost nothing as evidence mounts of the link between fossil-fuel burning and climate disruption.. the latest survey of peer-reviewed literature published from 2012 to november 2020 was conducted in two stages.
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Vidgun, thanks for sharing your views with me. My researching a number of your claims regrading the sustainability of renewable energy resulted in me discovering strong evidence which disproves claims of renewable being unsustainable. My researching your claims resulted in me being convinced more than ever that renewable energy is indeed very sustainable and that the evidence for human caused climate change and human caused global warming are indeed very real. I found proof that renewable energy in many locations is indeed cheaper (and has a lower carbon footprint) than energy from gas, coal or oil. I also saw proof that Bill Gates is indeed not trying to reduce the population by nefarious means (though yes he wishes to reduce the rate of population growth in some countries). As a result of researching a number of the claims promoted/spread by you I found clear irrefutable evidence that the claims against climate change and renewable energy are bogus, often consisting of photoshopped tampering of photos and of videos. I thus know now that I can just ignore all the extreme claims (made by climate change deniers) against the reality of human caused climate change and against the importance of renewable energy, rather than take the time so see if perhaps they are true. I also know now that I can just ignore all of the photos promoted in such wild extreme claims.
Thank you Vidgun for strengthening my confidence that humankind's conversion to use of renewable energy is much needed, and that Bill Gates is not trying to make people sterile (such as through vaccinations).
It is very sad that so many lies are being made and that so many of them are being spread by social media (and sometimes as part of fake news in talk shows in conservative media television broadcasts) . It is very sad that so many of the lies are saying human climate change is not happening, that renewable energy is not sustainable, that humans do not need to take action to fight climate change, that election in 2020 was stolen from Donald Trump, that Bill Gates is trying to kill people and/or make people sterile (such as trough Covid-19 vaccinations and through other vaccinations). It is also so very sad that so many people believe the lies and that so many of those people (such as in the USA) vote in political elections in accordance with their belief in the lies.
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Science News article: ‘Case closed’: 99.9% of scientists agree climate emergency caused by humans
by Disillusioned JW ina news article has the headline of " ‘case closed’: 99.9% of scientists agree climate emergency caused by humans"; see https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/19/case-closed-999-of-scientists-agree-climate-emergency-caused-by-humans .
the article says in part the following.. 'the scientific consensus that humans are altering the climate has passed 99.9%, according to research that strengthens the case for global action at the cop26 summit in glasgow.. the degree of scientific certainty about the impact of greenhouse gases is now similar to the level of agreement on evolution and plate tectonics, the authors say, based on a survey of nearly 90,000 climate-related studies.
this means there is practically no doubt among experts that burning fossil fuels, such as oil, gas, coal, peat and trees, is heating the planet and causing more extreme weather.. a previous survey in 2013 showed 97% of studies published between 1991 and 2012 supported the idea that human activities are altering earth’s climate.. this has been updated and expanded by the study by cornell university that shows the tiny minority of sceptical voices has diminished to almost nothing as evidence mounts of the link between fossil-fuel burning and climate disruption.. the latest survey of peer-reviewed literature published from 2012 to november 2020 was conducted in two stages.
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Thank you joey jojo for your insightful posts about climate change, including your pointing out the problems with a number of claims made by deniers (in this topic thread) of human caused climate change.
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Science News article: ‘Case closed’: 99.9% of scientists agree climate emergency caused by humans
by Disillusioned JW ina news article has the headline of " ‘case closed’: 99.9% of scientists agree climate emergency caused by humans"; see https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/19/case-closed-999-of-scientists-agree-climate-emergency-caused-by-humans .
the article says in part the following.. 'the scientific consensus that humans are altering the climate has passed 99.9%, according to research that strengthens the case for global action at the cop26 summit in glasgow.. the degree of scientific certainty about the impact of greenhouse gases is now similar to the level of agreement on evolution and plate tectonics, the authors say, based on a survey of nearly 90,000 climate-related studies.
this means there is practically no doubt among experts that burning fossil fuels, such as oil, gas, coal, peat and trees, is heating the planet and causing more extreme weather.. a previous survey in 2013 showed 97% of studies published between 1991 and 2012 supported the idea that human activities are altering earth’s climate.. this has been updated and expanded by the study by cornell university that shows the tiny minority of sceptical voices has diminished to almost nothing as evidence mounts of the link between fossil-fuel burning and climate disruption.. the latest survey of peer-reviewed literature published from 2012 to november 2020 was conducted in two stages.
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Correction of typos: The last paragraph of my prior post should say the following.
"On the graph you provided (of which an enlarged image is at https://www.antarcticglaciers.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Ice_Age_Temperature.png ) the vertical line for zero thousands of years ago is probably for the year 1950 (since
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Science News article: ‘Case closed’: 99.9% of scientists agree climate emergency caused by humans
by Disillusioned JW ina news article has the headline of " ‘case closed’: 99.9% of scientists agree climate emergency caused by humans"; see https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/19/case-closed-999-of-scientists-agree-climate-emergency-caused-by-humans .
the article says in part the following.. 'the scientific consensus that humans are altering the climate has passed 99.9%, according to research that strengthens the case for global action at the cop26 summit in glasgow.. the degree of scientific certainty about the impact of greenhouse gases is now similar to the level of agreement on evolution and plate tectonics, the authors say, based on a survey of nearly 90,000 climate-related studies.
this means there is practically no doubt among experts that burning fossil fuels, such as oil, gas, coal, peat and trees, is heating the planet and causing more extreme weather.. a previous survey in 2013 showed 97% of studies published between 1991 and 2012 supported the idea that human activities are altering earth’s climate.. this has been updated and expanded by the study by cornell university that shows the tiny minority of sceptical voices has diminished to almost nothing as evidence mounts of the link between fossil-fuel burning and climate disruption.. the latest survey of peer-reviewed literature published from 2012 to november 2020 was conducted in two stages.
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A moment ago I clicked on your link and I noticed that there is another chart shown (besides the one shown by you) and it is very different than the one you show. I then I clicked on the image (opening it into a new tab) to see a much enlarged image. That image is a much larger image and is located at https://www.antarcticglaciers.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Vostok_420ky_4curves_insolation_to_2004.jpg , with the far right of the chart spiking way up for the blue (Carbon dioxide) and green (Methane) lines) and off the chart to the right. It confirms what I have been saying and not what the climate deniers are saying!! See the image below and note that its time frame is stated in years BP (Before Present). By Before Present it means before the year 1950 CE/AD, hence the portion the graphs that go off the right side of the chart for the years after the year 1950 CE/AD..
Note that the temperature line (in red with the graduation marks on the right) closely synchronizes with the carbon dioxide line and that temperature line lags behind the methane line. Also note that the lines of those two gases each have a very recent huge spike! This chart thus very strongly supports the fact of climate change being progress and that a considerable increase in global temperature is likely imminent.
One the graph you provided (of which an enlarged image is at https://www.antarcticglaciers.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Ice_Age_Temperature.png ) the vertical line for zero thousands of years ago is probably for the year 1950 (since the "Present" in "Before Present" when used by geologist and archaeologists, especially when used in carbon dating, means the year 1950).
